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'Do leopards change their spots?': Taliban threat to heritage in Afghanistan could be worse than in 2001

In an exclusive interview with The Art Newspaper, a very well-informed anonymous source tells us how museums are protecting their collections as militants sweep the country

Martin Bailey
17 August 2021
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The Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan were destroyed by the Taliban 20 years ago

The Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan were destroyed by the Taliban 20 years ago

The Art Newspaper today spoke with a museum curator with a deep knowledge of heritage in Afghanistan. He is among a handful of the best-informed Westerners who have close contacts with curatorial colleagues at the Kabul Museum. Our source is in almost daily contact with them. In the current highly sensitive situation, just hours after the Taliban seized control of the capital, he talked with us frankly, but preferred to do so on an anonymous basis.

TAN: It is now 20 years since the Taliban used explosives to destroy the two Buddhas of Bamiyan. Is there now a similar threat?

Curator: Do leopards change their spots? One only has to look at the command structure of the Taliban and their supporters to feel that there won’t be much of a change from 2001—and it might well be worse.

TAN: The National Museum, on the outskirts of Kabul, is by far the most important repository of Afghanistan’s archaeological heritage. How well is the collection protected?

Curator: In the past few months museum staff have been taking objects off display, packing them and putting them in secure locations. But it is not prudent to say more.

TAN: You say locations in the plural, so I assume the collection has been dispersed to several places, and much of it is now off the premises of the museum.

Curator: Yes. All museums have disaster plans—and these plans are revisited in the light of disasters. The Kabul Museum was severely damaged by rockets during the Civil War in 1994. In 2001 the collection suffered terrible iconoclastic destruction by the Taliban. I can reassure you that the Kabul Museum has a well-organised disaster plan.

The National Museum of Afghanistan, Kabul, after full reconstruction following a rocket attack in 1994 and Taliban looting in 2001

TAN: What is the situation with archaeological sites?

Curator: Tragically, most archaeological sites have already been damaged almost beyond belief from looting, beginning in the 1960s and continuing until recently. Much of the archaeological landscape has simply gone. Many of the Buddhist monuments were dynamited in 2001, partly in search of portable antiquities to loot.

TAN: The Taliban issued a statement in February promising that they will respect heritage. Can we believe this?

Curator: Let us hold them to their word. That is where war crime tribunals have teeth. In the short-term, culture will hopefully not be destroyed, but it is the medium- and long-term effects on society which particularly worry me. Depriving a society of culture will damage an already traumatised nation, which was only just starting to see the benefits of a generation of exposure to culture. That sense of hope has just been crushed. But history does have a cyclical effect and no government remains in power forever. The best we can hope for is that culture has been put to sleep in Afghanistan—and will awaken when the situation changes.

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